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Thu, Feb. 2nd, 2006, 11:03 am
gm_v: News update:

Just to let all users of YRT know, YRT fare has been increased to an additional 25 cents. You have until March 1, 2006 to use all of your old tickets. After this point YRT will not accept old tickets even with cash supplements. Do note that your old tickets can be changed to the brand new tickets for no additional cost until March 1, 2006. After March 1 you must pay the difference. Here are the locations you can change your tickets.

York Region Transit
50 High Tech Road, 5th Floor
Richmond Hill, ON L4B 4N7

Town of Newmarket
Customer Service Department
395 Mulock Drive
Newmarket, ON L3Y 4X7
Telephone: (905) 895-5193
Hours of Operation: Monday to Friday, 8:30 a.m. - 4:30 p.m

As for YRT bus news:

Most of the EZ-Riders(541-570) have entered service only 568-570 have not been sighted, if you are a regular user of Route 40 or 41 you will have noticed these new buses have become the staple bus of the local routes. The EZ-Riders have been allocated to each division so you will find them on your local routes no matter where you are in York Region.

As of now, the buses that are in danger of retiring next are the Orion VIs (2061-2067) and the New Flyer D40S (2068-2072). Both of these bus types have been considered as spares, the D40S are express only. Do not be surprised to see 2061-2067 in routes they have never been assigned to like Route 90. There are currently no plans with the Orion Is (516-525, 2019-2036, 8502-8506, 8602, 8710-8723, 8801, 9001, 9002), since there are so many they aren't as likely to retire except the older 30 ft buses. A more probably case is that they will be sent to Newmarket. The MCI Classics (2044-2052) are getting minor refurbishment, some of you may have noticed a ghost white Classic 2052 with a brand new electrionic destination sign. We only have 1 GM New Look that looks like it will see to 2007, its bus #2006, the bus has been rebuilt in 2005 and has been sent to Newmarket. Markham buses 2001, 2003, 2005 are known to have been out of service for a long time. YRT's oldest vehicle 7526's status is unknown unless someone from Newmarket would like to update its status.

Wed, Feb. 8th, 2006 01:23 am (UTC)
(Anonymous)

Cheap bastards!

Inferior service, (even) higher fairs than the TTC in spite of the former, and old shit boxes still on the road. In spite of having many of them, I really hope the retire the Orion Is - all of them are at least 16 years old (many 18+), and (audibly, at least) they sometimes have trouble switching into second gear.

Wed, Feb. 8th, 2006 03:14 pm (UTC)
gm_v

The only Orion Is I can see retiring possibly are Markham's Orion Is. Even among those, 2030 and 2036 are not likely to retire due to their recent repaint into the YRT livery. 2021-2023 are Newmarket's. Infact what might actually happen is they just keep the Markham ones in storage and when a newmarket bus retires the markham ones will be sent over. YRT still doesn't seem inclined to retire the Orion Is, especially with new 2nd hand Orion Is we seem to keep acquiring. Vaughan receiving the latest Orion I, the number escapes me at the moment. Markham's newest Orion I is 8723.

I agree with you, the service is still not good even with Viva, I rather YRT spent the time rebuilding the Fishbowls and the D40s they just recently retired and use them expansion service. The Fishbowls are better buses to use for medium routes like Route 8 than the Classics which I feel are being wasted. With more buses available they would be able to attempt to make services with a minimum frequency of 15 minutes or less. Many of the Orion Is are sitting around doing nothing. I rather they retire the bad equipment like the Orion VIs and keep the tried tested and true equipment for better service. YRT does not acquire enough new buses for replacement. The 2006 order of only 9 D40LFs will not do.

Thu, Feb. 9th, 2006 12:00 am (UTC)
(Anonymous)

What's wrong with the Orion VI busses - I would have thought that they're newer and in better condition. The only models I have seen (route 5) are Orion Is, some other (slightly newer) ones which I can't seem to identify, and the D40LFs.

The problem with viva is that it's only for main, high volume route - there's no point of taking it if it means having switch when there are "standard YRT" busses which leave at the same terminals. How many people are actually served by something that only goes on major streets? (Young for example)

Thu, Feb. 9th, 2006 10:30 pm (UTC)
gm_v

The Orion VI buses suffer many mechnical failures big or small, the whole fleet is never out in service due to numerous problems daily. The fact YRT did not equip the Orion VIs with fire suppression systems makes the Orion VI's also prone to engine fire. TTC, London Transit, OC Transpo have all experienced Orion VI fires. Orion VIs being a fully low floor vehicle, loses a lot of seats for a 40 ft vehicle due to the engine and wheel covers, they carry less passengers than a 35 ft GM Fishbowl but are more expensive to use and maintain which is why they are used mostly for light and medium routes. The Orion VIs also are built using tubular carbon steel frame which is susceptible to corrosion which has greatly deteriorated Vaughan's Orion VIs as those buses are peeling from inside, the Orion Is were old enough to avoid this cost saving measure. Its these reasons why YRT has finally retired the Champion Solo late 2005.

As for Viva, yes that is the real problem. Viva does not allow many of us to go home without some other mode of transportation to end it. Either car or local YRT services which is why YRT should be focusing on its local services. I'm sure many riders are satisfied with Viva, but a lot more work has to be done to ensure local routes are at least somewhat convienient to use. YRT in 2005 retired their Champion Solos, some New Flyer D40s, most of the GM Fishbowls and the odd old Orion I. With exception to the Champions I believe those buses could have been put to good use as expansion buses.

Tue, Feb. 21st, 2006 05:13 am (UTC)
(Anonymous)

"..most of the GM Fishbowls and the odd old Orion I."

ugh the old fishbowls are a heck of a lot better (smoother) than any other bus of the same age. Rebuilding wasn't considered? *rollseyes*

Thu, Feb. 23rd, 2006 03:53 pm (UTC)
gm_v

The only recent GM Fishbowl rebuild would be Ex-Markham #2006 servicing Newmarket which was done early in 2005, that bus should last for a while. It happens to be the only Fishbowl with the complete YRT livery, meaning the blue roofline. The only other Fishbowl left would be the ex-Brampton #7526 though its condition is unknown. The #571-585 D40LF order retired 2001, 2003 and 2005. The last time I saw a Fishbowl in markham was #2005 on Route 8 only a week before these D40LF enterred service. 2002 had an accident and was retired in its old Markham livery, they decided not to rebuild 2004 and 2014 either probably due to rust. Of the Orion Is, 1983 ex-Markham 2019 has finally retired with the #601-609 D40LF order. This D40LF order also retired all the ex-GO New Flyer D40S (2068-2072). The oldest Orion I left is the 1984 ex-Markham 2020 stationed in Newmarket.